tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post4178291560841440293..comments2024-02-14T02:28:27.585-07:00Comments on a fear of flying: What is feminism?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-28140523377272852042008-10-13T12:07:00.000-06:002008-10-13T12:07:00.000-06:00Rebecca, I feel hugely complimented. I didn't eve...Rebecca, I feel hugely complimented. I didn't even think of that! In a way, that's why I loved Uchdorf's talk so much... I've felt that way for a long time about creativity and talents, and that "performance" is not the purpose of a talent. It's creation, or creativity. Creating something wonderful, something that holds the spirit in its heart.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-67943675207012571592008-10-13T12:06:00.000-06:002008-10-13T12:06:00.000-06:00I have to say that yes, there have been some who h...I have to say that yes, there have been some who have been more virulent, more strident, more angry. <BR/><BR/>I actually sympathise with those women, though I don't agree with them. Women are inherrently vulnerable in the society that has, for so long, been formulated by the male, white, land-owning sectors. It's not only feminists who are angry, it's minorities, the lower class... pretty Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-17457296865411034442008-10-13T11:38:00.000-06:002008-10-13T11:38:00.000-06:00I really like your comments, especially on creatin...I really like your comments, especially on creating and creativity. They remind me a lot of some of the things President Uchtdorf said in his address during Women's Conference.nateandrebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06335346729371603078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-28139373728951931372008-10-13T11:17:00.000-06:002008-10-13T11:17:00.000-06:00So I agree, Nosurf, that we shouldn't let someone ...So I agree, Nosurf, that we shouldn't let someone else redefine what "feminism" should mean. However, it's not only because of how the far right stereotypes it (of course, I like to think of myself as a very conservative person, so I guess I'm a little biased); I think it's also because there have definitely been some feminists out there who have made feminism look like something bad. Would you merrilykarolyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16354896948729639433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-62083662963044957922008-10-12T21:22:00.000-06:002008-10-12T21:22:00.000-06:00Fred: I realize that sometimes I post as if every...Fred: I realize that sometimes I post as if everyone who reads this blog knows exactly where I'm coming from. I just looked at this post and the comments again and had to laugh at how it must sound to someone outside of the very narrow culture from which this particular conversation originated. It's so interesting, isn't it.<BR/><BR/>Jayne,<BR/><BR/>I love those thoughts and reflections. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-47307443655867732062008-10-12T14:46:00.000-06:002008-10-12T14:46:00.000-06:00Loved your post. As an older "sister," I was aroun...Loved your post. As an older "sister," I was around in the 70's (as a teen and young adult), so I well remember the hooplah that surrounded the feminist movement. I'm calling it that because that was how it was referred to at that time. <BR/><BR/>I think every woman has to carve out an identify that's right for her. For some, it's to be a stay-at-home mother who is raising righteous children. Jaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619424725278855013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-8019469709014866032008-10-12T11:31:00.000-06:002008-10-12T11:31:00.000-06:00The post is great, and the comments even more inte...The post is great, and the comments even more interesting.<BR/><BR/>Rush Limbaugh. I wish he'd just go away.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12380165835261203465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-30161527334461656932008-10-10T10:39:00.000-06:002008-10-10T10:39:00.000-06:00There is certainly a problem with the word feminis...There is certainly a problem with the word feminist; at least there is a problem with the perception. And the problem is the same that we see with words such as liberal or conservative. I think it goes back quite well to skywalker's recent post about labels in political arguments. <BR/><BR/>While I would not consider myself a feminist, I do consider myself a supporter of women and womens' rights.David Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09124254332235174997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-48677256412674812662008-10-10T09:19:00.000-06:002008-10-10T09:19:00.000-06:00Michele, Also to answer what you asked, I think I...Michele, <BR/><BR/>Also to answer what you asked, I think I'm not sure. I personally have never closely associated with a man who has shown patronizing or devaluing attitudes towards womens' roles in the church. But that might just be because they sense I'd kick their butts. (See, there's the bra burning feminist in me.) <BR/><BR/>Actually, no wait. I think I've met one... maybe. But I alsoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-3833323019769402008-10-10T01:02:00.000-06:002008-10-10T01:02:00.000-06:00Or is that left? I have a hard enough time keeping...Or is that left? I have a hard enough time keeping track of my own left and right sides without worrying about which represents which side of politics.Janellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11092893864737058248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-34585005160414556712008-10-10T01:01:00.000-06:002008-10-10T01:01:00.000-06:00To your post, Amen. I'm tired of women (mostly Mor...To your post, Amen. <BR/><BR/>I'm tired of women (mostly Mormons, but I'm also working with a predominately Mormon sample) who equate feminism with the far-right extremes of feminism. The truth lies somewhere between "women have the right to choose anything they well please without accepting the consequences" and "women must be a happy, barefoot 'homemaker.'" You did an excellent job in more Janellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11092893864737058248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-85087176381647566502008-10-09T21:27:00.000-06:002008-10-09T21:27:00.000-06:00KofT,I feel you, I feel you. But IMO, there are s...KofT,<BR/><BR/>I feel you, I feel you. But IMO, there are some words we should not give up on. For instance, if someone started using the word "Mormon" as an epithet of some kind, or the word "Blond" (oh wait..) I'd bite back. I'd fight for people not to slander causes that are near and dear to my heart. <BR/><BR/>But I feel you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-15751719811165435102008-10-09T21:14:00.000-06:002008-10-09T21:14:00.000-06:00There used to be a show on TV called “Jonnie Loves...There used to be a show on TV called “Jonnie Loves Chachi” which will never be shown in Korea. Chachi is Korean slang for the male anatomy. I’m a Gay, Nazi, feminist. When you here this you automatically think of a homosexual, cross burning, Jew hating, pro abortion bra burner. Like a lot of words they have taken on assigned meanings from society. They no longer mean you are happy, nationalist Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-20036953984817576022008-10-09T15:43:00.000-06:002008-10-09T15:43:00.000-06:00P.S. I'm going to post a link to this on my blog.....P.S. I'm going to post a link to this on my blog... I hope that's ok!michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255898679206168298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-71136441578334594472008-10-09T15:31:00.000-06:002008-10-09T15:31:00.000-06:00Yeah, I'm so glad you posted this!! I whole-heart...Yeah, I'm so glad you posted this!! I whole-heartedly agree with all of it. <BR/><BR/>Women ARE so powerful, and full of strength. <BR/><BR/>You mentioned that you would like women in the church to see themselves as the supreme force for good. How do you think the men feel about that? I think some of the men believe it, but many act like they don't. Maybe the belief needs to start with michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255898679206168298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-92173124258470898472008-10-09T14:42:00.000-06:002008-10-09T14:42:00.000-06:00Thanks, Sherpa. I think that's kind of what i'm t...Thanks, Sherpa. I think that's kind of what i'm trying to say... let's take it back.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-3797297180616660922008-10-09T14:26:00.000-06:002008-10-09T14:26:00.000-06:00Why would we make up a new word? To paraphrase Bo...Why would we make up a new word? To paraphrase Bono, "Charles Manson stole this song(word) from the Beatles, and we're stealing it back!!<BR/><BR/>This is a pet issue of mine. i've called myself a feminist, very mindful of the right's intentional sabotage of a very real issue.Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04334846713290013451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-5964260379920631882008-10-09T13:53:00.000-06:002008-10-09T13:53:00.000-06:00a lot of people have the conception of feminism as...a lot of people have the conception of feminism as advocating leaving kids with childcare, allowing abortion, etc. This is a misconception, in my humble opinion.<BR/><BR/>Here: The merriam-webster definition of feminsim:<BR/><BR/>feminist<BR/>One entry found.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Main Entry:<BR/> fem·i·nism Listen to the pronunciation of feminism<BR/>Pronunciation:<BR/> \ˈfe-mə-ˌni-zəm\ <BR/>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466860937596192472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-65108969437537894972008-10-09T13:41:00.000-06:002008-10-09T13:41:00.000-06:00I think it's hard to find a word for what you are ...I think it's hard to find a word for what you are describing. I don't know if I would call it feminism. I would maybe call it "appreciating the divine role of the woman." Because "feminism" (whatever Limbaugh has said about it; I have to admit that I don't know what he has said) has so many connotations in today's society, as you showed. <BR/><BR/>Beautiful description of what a woman can merrilykarolyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16354896948729639433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13455938.post-2863082601971813922008-10-09T11:00:00.000-06:002008-10-09T11:00:00.000-06:00So well said! I'm with you on everything you beli...So well said! I'm with you on everything you believe. <BR/><BR/>Semantics are so tricky. I wish there was another word besides feminism, since Rush Limbaugh has ruined that one.<BR/><BR/>Let's get one going. Any ideas?Donnell Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09817692621903896429noreply@blogger.com